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Posted on: Apr. 30 2006,1:54 pm |
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| Quote (scorenix @ April 30 2006,12:56pm) | | The new jobs being created are at/or around $10 an hour. That's $20,080 a year. Median household income is about $38,000. Approximately 225 households in Freeborn County have $150,000 plus a year in household income. |
So the bulk of the prospective homeowners for this project either have to be retired and living very comfortably, or working good jobs elsewhere. In the latter case, this doesn't seem all that likely, given the skyrocketing price of gasoline.
Has anyone done the math on this? On the surface, it seems like a lamebrained idea.
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JohnDoe
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Posted on: Apr. 30 2006,2:02 pm |
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There would probably be a mix of people living in the new development. There will probably be some business owners too who will move their businesses to our city.
This seems to be a done deal. I don't understand why almost everybody on here is so opposed to it. Even the current owner wants to shut the course down. Why not look at the fact that these developers are willing to put their money into our town.
A lot of people keep whining and give their opinions about what will help our local economy, but they don't seem to be doing anything besides whining and criticizing the people who are willing to take the risk and try something new.
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Posted on: Apr. 30 2006,2:18 pm |
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It seems like about 50% of the people I talk to are glad to see someone sticking outside money into Albert Lea, but it seems the people that support the development are keeping their opinion to themselves because it's an emotional issue for the people that want to save it.
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Apr. 30 2006,2:29 pm |
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| Quote (JohnDoe @ April 30 2006,2:02pm) | | There would probably be a mix of people living in the new development. There will probably be some business owners too who will move their businesses to our city. |
Hasn't the "If we build it, they will come" mentality been tried to death down there? Albert Einstien said that doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the very definition of insanity.
You built a new high school; they didn't come. You built a new justice center; they didn't come. The hospital's been expanded ad nauseam, and still they didn't come. How much of this cart-before-the-horse thinking is it going to take before Albert Lea wakes up and tackles its real issues, like job growth and business infrastucture?
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JohnDoe
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Posted on: Apr. 30 2006,2:36 pm |
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Botto, What have you done to create jobs? Attracting business owners will attract their businesses.
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JohnDoe
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Posted on: Apr. 30 2006,2:39 pm |
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Plus, This development isn't using public funds like the school and courthouse did. These are private individuals buying private land. I'm sure they've done their homework if they're willing to invest that kind of money into this project.
I believe the first big article interviewing the developer stated that this will bring $60 Million in construction business into our town using local contractors. How isn't that creating jobs immediately?
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Apr. 30 2006,2:42 pm |
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| Quote (JohnDoe @ April 30 2006,2:36pm) | | Botto, What have you done to create jobs? |
I'm not in charge of ceating jobs in A.L. Your cadre of city management and local representatives and development agencies are.
| Quote | | Attracting business owners will attract their businesses. |
Show me where this has worked in the past in Albert Lea.
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JohnDoe
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Posted on: Apr. 30 2006,2:49 pm |
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That's the problem with a lot of people these days. They point fingers at problems and offer no solutions. Then they say it's not their job to do that. A community is a group as a whole. By electing city officials they think that they have no responsibility at all to do their part to make the community better.
Also, why do you have to focus on the past so much? The population in A.L. was larger 20 years ago than it is today. If you were to follow this trend and look back at historical reasons to do things, you'll just get more of a decline. Instead of pointing out things in the past that may or may not have worked, you should be looking at things in the future that can work, and embrace change. Like you said, insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. So doing the same things that the community of A.L. has done as a whole and expecting more jobs and growth to magically appear is insane.
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Apr. 30 2006,2:58 pm |
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I already offered up the only workable solution: More business and industrial infrastructure, i.e. more jobs that pay more than nine dollars an hour.
It's the only solution.
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JohnDoe
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Posted on: Apr. 30 2006,3:01 pm |
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Do you have an idea as to how to attract those?
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